What Do I Do With Deleted eHow Articles?

by JadeDragon on April 7, 2010

Since the news of the eHow shutdown two days ago (in terms of new content via the site anyway) and than an aggressive sweep where many articles are being deleted, many eHow writers are feeling lost. Some are trying out Demand Studios. Some writers are looking for homes for their recently swept articles. Other writers are pulling their remaining articles and some are just looking for a good place to put up craft articles with lots of photos.

About a dozen eHow writers have contacted me today through various channels asking what they should do with content they want to move or that was removed. I’ve considered all the alternatives I am aware of and this is my conclusion – and what I am doing myself with the 5 articles I lost today to the sweep.

We learned that Demand Studios does not allow writer submitted photos, requiring that writers use their own photo bank, for copyright reasons. So this solution allows my crafty friends to post well written articles with original photos with no fear of being deleted or having the photos lost.

Be sure to read How to Save eHow Articles. You might as well save your work for reuse if it gets deleted.

Let me introduce you to Xomba, a writing site based in Jacksonville Florida.

Responsive and Honest: Nick Veneris the Xomba “CEO” heads a small but extremely responsive team. They have a forum, a blog and a contact form you can use. Basically you can chat with CEO, the Moderator, or the Programing guy any time you want to. They recently put in a suggestion forum with issues and requests. You can vote for your top issues there and the team actually updates everyone on the progress.

Nick the Xomba CEO

Nick the Xomba Owner/CEO

Transparent Earnings: Xomba is a 50% Google Adsense Sharing Site. Currently they flip a virtual coin when a viewer comes along and 50% of the time the site displays an ad with your id and 50% it displays an ad with the site Adsense code. If you get a click when your ad is up, you get paid by Google. No secret sauce, quality, usefulness, we can’t tell you anything story at Xomba. Further I understand they are updating to a Google Adsense API model soon. That should have no over all effect on the writer but it will split all the Adsense earnings 50/50. The writer would earn half of every click instead of 100% of 50% of the clicks. Either way there are no secrets.  For help signing up with Adsense see the Xomba HELP article (linked off the main page) on exactly how to get an Adsense Publisher Number and add it to your Xomba profile (you can add it later after you sign up).

Good Page Rank: With a PR5 Xomba quickly indexes articles high in the SERPs. Use a good searchable title and you should do well.  Search Engine Optimize as much as you want when you publish and afterward.  The article URLs include the main words in your title which helps Google find your work.

Related Articles: The site generates a related article list and a list of your latest articles on every page. This help the SERPs, helps the ads get on target, and encourages readers to continue reading other articles that look interesting.  Even if your article does not rank well you will get a little traffic from other articles on site.

Photos: Adding photos is easy. Just use the photo button and upload the photos. You can link photos in or upload and store them in Xomba as separate searchable files that link back to your article. Position the photos where you want, as often as you like and in any size that makes sense. You can turn your photos into clickable links elsewhere. Total freedom.

Links: Add links to what you want, where you want. No separate resource box. Link with an Amazon Affiliate link, link to your blog, link to other articles, whatever you want within reasonable site rules (no links to illegal or dangerous content).   If you are writing a craft article for example why not link to supplies on Amazon and hopefully make some money?  Like a book? Review it and link to it.  Here is an example of a page I wrote around affiliate links: Copper Sink Guide.

No Publishing Issues – Edit When You Want: To date I’ve never had any issues publishing other than a short timewhen the whole site went down for a scheduled software upgrade.   No mechanics on Xomba.

There is no draft mode – you just submit.  You can easily update, add links and photos or add more content anytime you want.

Freedom of Format: You can write what you want and in the format you want. You can add bolding, colors, photos and illustrations, videos, and pretty much do what you want (within the TOS).

Moderation: Friendly Moderation by Kristen Malmed. She will check your very first post to be sure you are not a spammer, and she keeps the site spam free.  So far, with over 500 points, I have yet to see a spammer.  I’ve only got one spam message from a “user” who wanted to marry me so far.

Kristen will likely friend you and she is really there to help the users.

Friends: You can accumulate friends and send Private Messages or Wall Posts back and forth.  You can also rate up (but not down) good articles.

Views: There is a good list of articles with a total views and a 24 hour views count you can see when you are logged in.

Points System: You earn points (no value other than fun) by posting Articles (5 points) Bookmarks (3 Points) and Comments (1 point).  The points are a way of seeing roughly ho much content you placed on the site.

Linking Value:  You get the opportunity to place several inks on your profile page.  You can put an anchored  link in your signature so that every comment you leave includes a link to where you choose. My signature points to this blog and it has been good for traffic.  If you comment, the article owner gets an email.  Most respond with a comment back.  They are likely to follow your link to reciprocate the favor too especially if you say something intelligent.

The Bookmark type of article on Xomba is a great way to build quality links to other content you own.

Help Guides: Clear help guides are available under the HELP tab.

Example eHow Article: If you want to see what an ehow can look like on Xomba check this article on Sanibel Island out.  I put up the exact same text as was on eHow before they swept this decent earner.  It immediately took the same spot on Google for the search How to Get to Sanibel Island as its ehow predecessor had.

Later I plan to dress the article up a bit, add some nice photos, and add extra text, but you get the idea.  For now I just threw it up quick so I could show it as an example for this blog post.    I did add an Amazon Affiliate link that was not in eHow as a demonstration for you.

I like how clean the page looks without the million distractions on the eHow site.

Referral Program: Yes passive income questers, there is a new user referral program.  Your referrer (me in this case) gets 10% of the Adsense Earnings from the Xomba 1/2 of the earnings. That helps pay for my research and writing time.  You get 50% either way, so do me a favor and sign up through this referral link.  I’ll provide any assistance I can to get you going as a writer on Xomba.

Join Xomba here now.

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1 Manfredsnelling April 7, 2010 at 1:12 am

Hello Jade Dragon,

How do we get a Google code though? I know this sounds like a stupid question but I never bothered investigating it since Ehows system did everything for us. Also how are the earnings on Xoomba? I was earning arounf 500 a month with the 932 articles I had on there and if not for there constant problems could have earned more, but couldnt publish. Anyway, Im just wondering how your earnings compared using Xoomba and Ehow?

Manfred

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2 JadeDragon April 7, 2010 at 10:59 am

I have less content on Xomba, and much of it is short bookmarks to eHow, my blog, or other people’s work. I get steady traffic and steady clicks. As I add more actual articles that should improve.

It is totally an Adsense deal so you need good titles and search traffic to your articles. One of the great things is you have freedom to use whatever format works. For your content you can work on adding quality affiliate links into the articles. You will seriously want to learn affiliate marketing – that is where the money is at.

Watch this blog for affiliate marketing discussion coming soon. I’m intending to step up my affiliate income efforts and will be very open about how I’m doing it and what is successful and what I mess up.
.-= JadeDragon´s last blog ..Carnival of Making Money Online Review =-.

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3 ManfredSnelling April 7, 2010 at 5:12 am

Hello Jade,

Nevermind after asking I saw the answer right on Xomba and know now you can use your account profile link to set up Adsense account. Man Im not looking forward to posting up all those articles though (will take countless hours) but guess I have to as its not kind of thing you can outsource as do not want the outsourcers having access to account info etc.

Manfred

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4 JadeDragon April 7, 2010 at 10:51 am

I know you have a ton of content so I can see why you need some help. I don’t see why you can’t outsource the posting.

Your Google Publisher id is public to anyone viewing the source code. If the outsourced help changed the code to their own you can just change it back. Your name and profile links are no secret. Xomba does not need your address and SSN since it is Google that pays you. Just set a new password up for your assistant and then reset it when they are done.

You and your content will be a great addition to Xomba.
.-= JadeDragon´s last blog ..Carnival of Making Money Online Review =-.

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5 classicalgeek April 7, 2010 at 5:39 am

Don’t forget, six months from now, to send a letter to Demand Studios, Inc., telling them the exact articles, photos, and URLs that you have deleted, and request that they stop using them (they have thirty days after that to comply).
I Am Not A Lawyer, but I read through their new TOS very thoroughly and according to them, they can delete your article, repost it elsewhere, and continue to earn from it. OUCH!

The good news is, you have until May 8th before that goes into effect.

Pity about all those backlinks, though! At least on some sites they are editable.
.-= classicalgeek´s last blog ..Saturday, April 3, 2010 =-.

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6 JadeDragon April 7, 2010 at 10:47 am

I’ll be reviewing and redirecting backlinks where possible. We can edit the ones on Xomba but it looks like not on SheToldMe. Where we have editable pages providing the links those pages are maturing and we can benefit from that while changing where they link too.

Personally I am not removing content from eHow but I understand why some people would. I put my articles there as a set and forget it deal. It earns for me, it’s backlinked and there it stays.

I thought about and researched the options before writing this post up. As you can see I concluded that I will be reposting anything that was swept from eHow onto Xomba.

It is not a quality issue with my writing at eHow rather seems to be a “standard format issue” on their side. I’m putting the good articles where they can easily fit the site standard and where I am made to feel welcome.

How to Get to Sanibel Island was bouncing around on page 1 or 2 of Google, pulling readers, and making me steady money. As you can see the writing is pretty good on the article. Why did they sweep it? My best guess is so they could assign the title on Demand Studios.

At this moment I do not have access to residual income articles through the DS platform so I can’t comment too much on that model yet.
.-= JadeDragon´s last blog ..Carnival of Making Money Online Review =-.

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7 ManfredSnelling April 7, 2010 at 6:22 am

I do not think they can use my articles as they banned me from the site, ironically for pointing out the same thing you said in your statement above. Anyway, If I search my titles it seems as though they are gone but if not I am prepared to seek legal action. My father is an Attorney who specializes in class action litigation and I plan to discuss this with him in next few days. For certain though Ehow can not change the TOS mid game and not allow people to withdraw rather than playing a game they know has a stacked deck.

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8 JadeDragon April 7, 2010 at 11:01 am

I think the issue was pointing out how to get off eHow while on the eHow forum. I’m operating a “say what you want policy here” Everyone takes responsibility for their own words here. If you can’t take the heat tough on you.
.-= JadeDragon´s last blog ..Carnival of Making Money Online Review =-.

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9 Moon Hussain April 7, 2010 at 10:12 am

If I go back to writing articles for passive income, I will probably start fresh with Xomba. eHow is too tumultous :(
.-= Moon Hussain´s last blog ..A Conversation That I Will Remember For the Rest of My Life =-.

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10 JadeDragon April 7, 2010 at 11:01 am

Back? You have a passive income blog!
.-= JadeDragon´s last blog ..Carnival of Making Money Online Review =-.

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11 Master Dayton April 7, 2010 at 11:43 pm

This is a really good strategy for dealing with the mess that this is causing for many writers. I suppose it is another really good lesson for why writers need to always back up their work and look for more than one income stream. I’m in the same boat: I remove all backlinks I can once an article has been removed, and I redirect backlinks on any eHow article that’s ranking for a term I think I can match or beat with one of my blogs, a Hub, or an InfoBarrel article (another place I’d recommend along with Xomba). Definitely be prepared with a plan B, because I agree that I’ve seen multiple occasions where my article was the only game in town on eHow, then when it started earning at a certain level, it was swept and then “coincidentally” there were 5 eHow articles on related keywords within a week from DS writers. I’ll write for DS for the income it brings in, but after all this has left a bad taste in my mouth with how they do things I’ll be glad to get to the point where the passive income means I won’t have to bother anymore.
.-= Master Dayton´s last blog ..How I Became A Freelance Writer =-.

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12 JadeDragon April 8, 2010 at 6:48 am

You can’t possibly be suggesting that DS would sweep a good article to replace it with multiple DS articles could you. If you see a request for How to Get to Sanibel Island on DS flat rate let me know ok.
.-= JadeDragon´s last blog ..Carnival of Making Money Online Review =-.

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13 ManfredSnelling April 8, 2010 at 6:57 pm

Jade,

Ehow will sweep a article and replace it with a DS article that they own. I have seen it happen to myself, and others many times and I highly suspect it will get worse very soon. My honest opinion is Ehow will eventually own every piece of content on the site and even try to do it to existing articles. I highly advise everyone to look at the changes to Ehows TOS and to DS TOS as the writing on the wall is quite obvious at this point. To be frank the only way around it is to get banned from Ehow which is quite easy to do using the community forums. Pulling articles no longer works and getting banned is now the only way because if the kick you out they legally can not continue using your content.

Not sure id anyone noticed but another interesting change is the complete forums now aren’t visible until you sign into Ehow, this wasn’t the case until just a few days ago, as they are trying to hide the BS from the general public.

Manfred

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14 JadeDragon April 8, 2010 at 8:53 pm

True enough the “Writers Lounge” area is behind log in. I forgot that point when they claimed I was pointing info from the private DS forum to the “public” eHow writers lounge that is actually private.
.-= JadeDragon´s last blog ..Carnival of Making Money Online Review =-.

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15 ManfredSnelling April 9, 2010 at 12:40 am

Jade,

Its a very new development as up until only a few days ago you could access Ehow forum without logging in. For whatever reason though they’ve now moved it to behind log in and are moderating it much more heavily than before.

Manfred

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16 JadeDragon April 9, 2010 at 12:45 am

Yes I noticed that as well. It must be the Buzz.
.-= JadeDragon´s last blog ..Reuse eHow Articles =-.

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17 Nichelle April 8, 2010 at 8:50 am

In my case it should be what should I do with a deleted ehow ACCOUNT. I couldn’t be any madder at stupid eff… are we allowed to swear on this blog? All I can say right now is that I hate ehow, HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT. It’s bad enough to disable the WCP, then perform massive sweeps so that they don’t have to pay for future WCP, but to delete my account?

In all honesty though, I think it may have had something to do with the fact that I said on a forum post that I would give away my acceptance to DS to any poor rejected writer who wanted it, since I had no interest in joining. Is that enough to ban me for, though?

Sorry to hijack your post, I just had to rant about stupid ehow. :(

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18 JadeDragon April 8, 2010 at 10:35 am

The Heavy Hand of Demand at work again. Luckily there are alternatives.
.-= JadeDragon´s last blog ..Carnival of Making Money Online Review =-.

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19 Kristen Malmed April 8, 2010 at 11:50 am

JadeDragon,
I, for one, am so excited that you are enjoying the benefits of Xomba!

Thank you so much for letting others know about Xomba and our wonderful community!

Thank you for contributing to our great community of writers, we are so happy to have you and anyone who is willing to come try us out! :-)

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20 JadeDragon April 8, 2010 at 4:00 pm

Thanks for dropping by and adding to the conversation Kristen! I’m so happy I can feature your smiling face on my blog and talk about Xomba as a great alternative for Writers.

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21 ManfredSnelling April 9, 2010 at 4:26 am

Jade,

Ive already signed up for Xomba using your link but have 2 questions as I cant find the answers on the site.

1. How many articles should I post before applying for adsense?

2. Xomba states openly they show their ads 50% and our ads 50% of time. My question though is who gets what hours of day? or how does that part work?

Manfred

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22 JadeDragon April 9, 2010 at 10:07 am

You can apply for Adsense anytime. Might as well do it ASAP as it might take a few days for Google to approve you.

You can put the Adsense code into your account at Xomba anytime – even before you publish the first article.

Yes exactly how they split revenue is not too clear. However having looked at a number of adsense sharing models I can read between the lines. From what I understand every time someone views your article the system flips a virtual coin. Heads it uses your adsense code, tails it uses the sites adsense code. Time of day does not matter as it happens view by view. If your code serves the ad, you get 100% of the click value from Google directly.

I understand they might be changing this system in the future to share every click. If/when they do change the effect would be you get 50% of 100% of the clicks rather than the current 100% of 50% of the clicks. So overall no difference in revenue to you.

Of course you could get 100% of the adsense on your own site but than you would have to run the design and technical side of your own site – so it is pretty fair splitting the money 50% to the tech team and 50% to the content provider.

Maybe someone from Xomba will chime in…
.-= JadeDragon´s last blog ..When Does Delete Not Mean Delete at eHow? =-.

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23 Kristen Malmed April 9, 2010 at 1:11 pm

Manfred,
I am the Online Communications Specialist at Xomba and I would love to help you with your questions.
1. How many articles should I post before applying for adsense?
A. You are more than welcome to post as many articles as you’d like. Just
know that you will not get paid for any clicks on your ads until you
enter your Google Adsense Publishing Number.
2. Xomba states openly they show their ads 50% and our ads 50% of time. My question though is who gets what hours of day? or how does that part work?
A. This works randomly. If you look at your article and view the page
source you can find which pub number is showing. Half the time it will
be yours and half the time it will be Xomba’s. That does not mean that
every other time is Xomba’s. There can be times where yours will show
three times before Xomba’s shows but at some point Xomba’s will do
the same. I hope this makes sense. It’s a little confusing but there is no
set time on when a pub number is shown, it is all done at random.
If you have any other questions, please feel free to email me at kristen -at- xomba.com at any time!

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24 JadeDragon April 9, 2010 at 1:15 pm

Thanks for the clarification Kristen. The flip of a coin example is correct. It is random but over time it comes out to 50/50.
.-= JadeDragon´s last blog ..When Does Delete Not Mean Delete at eHow? =-.

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25 ManfredSnelling April 9, 2010 at 3:35 pm

Jade and Kristen,

Thank you both very much for your responses and I will get started setting up a adsense account right away, then start posting articles once approved. I just was unsure if I could set up a adsense account without having at least some content under my profile page.

I am greatly impressed by Kristens taking the time to reply on Jades blog and think based on this level of client support that Xomba must be a very good site. That said I sincerely look forward to getting started and also look forward to being able to write/publish non how to topics. =)

Thank You,

Manfred

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26 JadeDragon April 9, 2010 at 3:45 pm

You can post articles starting right away, you just will not start earning till you have the Adsense code input. The articles will start getting indexed in Google etc though and as soon as it is added the Adsense code gets applied to all the articles in your account regardless of when they were posted. I think that is the fastest way back to earning from your article base.
.-= JadeDragon´s last blog ..What is the Credit Crisis? =-.

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27 Truck Lift Kits and wheels April 15, 2010 at 10:42 pm

Such a very good and informative post. i think both very much for your responses & I will get started setting up a adsense account right away. thanks for the information….

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